Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Moscow-City

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Files in Category:Moscow-City

No Freedom of Panorama in Russia.

Artem Karimov (talk) 22:04, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment -- I think nominating all these images in one group nomination was a mistake. The one image I uploaded, File:Pushing a barge on the Moskva River, Moscow.jpg, has the Moskva River in the foreground, and a group of about two dozen high-rises in the background. Freedom of Panorama is counter-intuitive, hard to understand, but every other image where I have seen an FOP concern raised, which showed many buildings, did not focus on one specific building, all were determined not to violate our FOP standards. Geo Swan (talk) 00:38, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your comment. I agree that in the normal circumstances panoramas would be excluded as de minimis. Unfortunately, threshold of originality is absent in Russian law and practice so far. We are on the swamp territory and therefore have to take precautions. Artem Karimov (talk) 03:58, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
1. So you didn't comment on my suggestion this mass nomination should be withdrawn, and replaced by more focussed nominations.
2. Is there a reason you didn't offer your fuller explanation in your original nomination.
I repeat my suggestion this nomination be withdrawn, and replaced by more focussed nominations. Geo Swan (talk) 06:46, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
We have no de minimis in Russian law therefore even panoramas are liable to be removed. So no, I will not withdraw the nomination. Artem Karimov (talk) 09:27, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Your assertion that Russia has no recognition of de minimus is extraordinary. It is an assertion you haven't substantiated. Not one person has backed you up. I request substantiation. Geo Swan (talk) 16:29, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please, explain on Russian shortly what FOP is it in usertalk. For example, in this list my photo of MIBC. File:Moscow-City-03-10-2010.jpg (#73)
Image 31 in this list, File:KrilovPatPonds.JPG, is a sculpture, in a park. I suggest that, like File:Pushing a barge on the Moskva River, Moscow.jpg, it is different from the other images in this nomination. The previous thirty images all seem to be views, from various angles, of the construction of a group, or groups of buildings. Geo Swan (talk) 07:10, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that File:Pushing a barge on the Moskva River, Moscow.jpg can be kept since the buildings represent the background. The monument to Krylov is from 1976 and thus has to be deleted.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:04, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I mentioned this mass nomination in this village pump note. Geo Swan (talk) 08:04, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think that this mass deletion request is abusive. Artem Karimov has an history of arguing without any valid argument against everybody else. See Commons:Deletion requests/File:Ул. Стойкости от пр. м. Жукова.jpg and my talk page. Yann (talk) 09:54, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
How is it abusive exactly? Apart from IDONTLIKETHISNOM? Artem Karimov (talk) 12:20, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The best way for all this images is to be exported into Russian Wikipedia according to its rules. WXP (talk) 10:25, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have already suggested this and I hope that action will be taken. We are in fact discussing the images to which FoP regulations do not apply (which may represent significant minority).--Ymblanter (talk) 10:30, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Image 40 in this list, File:Moscow City 09.24.2011.jpg. Freedom of Panorama was added.--Strober (talk) 12:33, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep all due to mass, low-quality nomination Bulwersator (talk) 12:59, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep all, as Bulwersator suggests, due to mass, low-quality nomination. The handful of images that show a monument or sculpture in the foreground should be renominated, in a separate nomination. They will probably be deleted. The handful of images that show just a single building in the foreground should be listed in a separate renomination, as they too will probably be deleted. I discourage Artem or any other contributor to renominate any of the remaining images that show complexes of buildings, without substantiation of the assertion that de minimus doesn't apply to them. Geo Swan (talk) 16:38, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keap all --Dmitry A. Mottl (talk) 09:00, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: as per above opinions. I would advise Artem Karimov not to nominate again these images. When there is a real issue, please nominate them in separate deletion requests. Thanks, Yann (talk) 11:03, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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